Date: 30 Jan 2024
“Tutu on the Beach”
Joshua Savieti and Kaufononga Pulu
Can you briefly introduce yourself – in what capacity did you work and interact with BOP?
We are Joshua Savieti and Kaufononga Pulu we are film makers and we are known as “Tutu on the Beach”, based here in the Kingdom of Tonga in Tongatapu.
We were requested by BOP, in partnership with the Women’s Division of the Ministry of Internal Affairs (MIA), last year in 2022, to produce a series of films to showcase women in leadership in different fields in Tonga.
Tell us how has your film project with BOP influenced your craft as a producer and your views on women in leadership/shared leadership?
The project with BOP has shown to us that empowering women is not just about providing them with opportunities, but also about involving men in the conversation and in the process. By including men in the journey, like us – as male filmmakers and producers, we can see firsthand the important role that women play in leadership and the impact they have in their organizations, in their families, and in their communities.
We also believe that the use of film and the media – especially social media – is very powerful as a tool for influence. It allows for a visual representation of the stories and experiences of women, which can be more impactful than just the written word.
Our project with BOP had us collaborating with a range of women leaders, which has made us, as filmmakers, appreciate the importance of diverse voices and perspectives. Also, it has provided a good platform for us to network, engage and learn from these women leaders, who have unique experiences and knowledge to share.
What do you think is the most significant barrier to women’s political leadership in Tonga?
We believe the most significant barriers to women’s political leadership in Tonga is the mindset solidified and reinforced by the cultural and traditional norms that prescribe what are deemed to be appropriate roles for men and women. We believe that often, women are expected to prioritize their roles as wives, mothers and even being a grandmother over pursuing a career in politics for example. This expectation conveyed by societal pressure extends to within families and communities.
Also, we believe there is not yet enough demand or appetite for women’s political leadership in Tonga. This can be attributed to factors including a belief that women are not suited for leadership roles, and a reluctance to challenge traditional gender roles. Without strong political will and demand from both men and women to promote women’s leadership, it will be difficult to overcome these barriers that women face.
In your opinion, what role can BOP continue to play in promoting women’s leadership?
We think BOP’s use of the media and filmmaking is an innovative approach to building awareness and influencing. BOP needs to extend these programs into schools as this is an important entry point to change mindsets and reframe the value of women’s leadership – schools are where we find tomorrow’s leaders. BOP should also continue to involve and engage men in the conversation, their support is key to women taking up more leadership roles – including political leadership – for lasting change.